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		<title>By: À quand le marché de revente des noms de domaine francophone? &#124; Blogue Marketing Interactif</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15539</link>
		<dc:creator>À quand le marché de revente des noms de domaine francophone? &#124; Blogue Marketing Interactif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] un nom de domaine générique, la vie est belle. Vous pouvez le constatez pour vous-même en lisant une recherche approfondie que j’ai réalisé sur les liens (en [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] un nom de domaine générique, la vie est belle. Vous pouvez le constatez pour vous-même en lisant une recherche approfondie que j’ai réalisé sur les liens (en [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AtlantaRealEstate</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15395</link>
		<dc:creator>AtlantaRealEstate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 04:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gabriel:

Thanks for the reply. I&#039;ll keep you posted if I can remember to!

This week I&#039;m travelling but expect to start designing 9 new pages next week, SEO&#039;d for these KWs I talked about.

Do you have any input on this. I&#039;m debating which format to use for the URLs.

I&#039;m going to put them under my main domain:

http://www.atlantarealestateinfo.com/***here**

My question is what would be the most effective:

the-new-keyword-url.htm
thenewkeywordurl.htm
The_new_keyword_url.htm

It&#039;s another one of these fuzzy deals on how Google &quot;likes&quot; it.

Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gabriel:</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply. I&#8217;ll keep you posted if I can remember to!</p>
<p>This week I&#8217;m travelling but expect to start designing 9 new pages next week, SEO&#8217;d for these KWs I talked about.</p>
<p>Do you have any input on this. I&#8217;m debating which format to use for the URLs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to put them under my main domain:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.atlantarealestateinfo.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.atlantarealestateinfo.com/</a>***here**</p>
<p>My question is what would be the most effective:</p>
<p>the-new-keyword-url.htm<br />
thenewkeywordurl.htm<br />
The_new_keyword_url.htm</p>
<p>It&#8217;s another one of these fuzzy deals on how Google &#8220;likes&#8221; it.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Goldenberg</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15394</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Goldenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to hear it RM! Would love to hear about your future progress on the topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to hear it RM! Would love to hear about your future progress on the topic.</p>
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		<title>By: AtlantaRealEstate</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15389</link>
		<dc:creator>AtlantaRealEstate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GG:

Yes, you are correct and that is what I&#039;m contending with in my market right now.

I&#039;m doing a very long slow campaign to try and rank for the primary key words. This may take forever or may never be achieved.

In the mean time, I&#039;m putting up subpages with the goal of ranking for all the tier two KWs. This will generate huge traffic in itself and judging by the metrics I&#039;m seeing, it&#039;s doable.

RM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GG:</p>
<p>Yes, you are correct and that is what I&#8217;m contending with in my market right now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m doing a very long slow campaign to try and rank for the primary key words. This may take forever or may never be achieved.</p>
<p>In the mean time, I&#8217;m putting up subpages with the goal of ranking for all the tier two KWs. This will generate huge traffic in itself and judging by the metrics I&#8217;m seeing, it&#8217;s doable.</p>
<p>RM</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Goldenberg</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15386</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Goldenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a question of budget and of niche. You may not rank for cars, but you can rank for alternatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a question of budget and of niche. You may not rank for cars, but you can rank for alternatives.</p>
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		<title>By: AtlantaRealEstate</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15382</link>
		<dc:creator>AtlantaRealEstate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone really compete for mainstream KWs with sites that have MILLIONS of backlinks?

I mean, c&#039;mon. Game over in those categories.

But, very interesting data!

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone really compete for mainstream KWs with sites that have MILLIONS of backlinks?</p>
<p>I mean, c&#8217;mon. Game over in those categories.</p>
<p>But, very interesting data!</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>By: 5 SEO Posts You Need to Read</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15299</link>
		<dc:creator>5 SEO Posts You Need to Read</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Backlink Research Shows How To Compete Elite (Part 2) &#8211; Also written by Gab Goldenberg (but published on SEO ROI), this second post about the same study includes screenshots of the data, his analysis and conclusions and some caveats. There are a lot of screenshots (which is great for people who like visuals), and if you subscribe to his RSS feed, you can download an Excel file with the full data spreadsheet and all screenshots. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Backlink Research Shows How To Compete Elite (Part 2) &#8211; Also written by Gab Goldenberg (but published on SEO ROI), this second post about the same study includes screenshots of the data, his analysis and conclusions and some caveats. There are a lot of screenshots (which is great for people who like visuals), and if you subscribe to his RSS feed, you can download an Excel file with the full data spreadsheet and all screenshots. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Goldenberg</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15257</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Goldenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the added information, Alex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the added information, Alex.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Chudnovsky</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15251</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Chudnovsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys!

Thanks to Gab for writing very interesting article, was happy to help out with some numbers!

Talking of which - our crawler indeed crawls more pages now than it was in 2006, a lot more - however on LIKE FOR LIKE basis, ie comparing data for the same period is valid even for old dates.

Our charts now produce normalised (against crawl level) versions as well - https://www.majesticseo.com/comparedomainbacklinkhistory.php?d0=seoroi.com&amp;d1=&amp;d2=&amp;d3=&amp;d4=&amp;type=2&amp;ctype=0 
 
The numbers that we supplied to Gab were normalised using this approach.

Generally speaking we don&#039;t favour one site over the other - the only exception is blogspot.com (and couple more blog locations) that we crawl more deeply than most domains.

Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys!</p>
<p>Thanks to Gab for writing very interesting article, was happy to help out with some numbers!</p>
<p>Talking of which &#8211; our crawler indeed crawls more pages now than it was in 2006, a lot more &#8211; however on LIKE FOR LIKE basis, ie comparing data for the same period is valid even for old dates.</p>
<p>Our charts now produce normalised (against crawl level) versions as well &#8211; <a href="https://www.majesticseo.com/comparedomainbacklinkhistory.php?d0=seoroi.com&amp;d1=&amp;d2=&amp;d3=&amp;d4=&amp;type=2&amp;ctype=0" rel="nofollow">https://www.majesticseo.com/comparedomainbacklinkhistory.php?d0=seoroi.com&amp;d1=&amp;d2=&amp;d3=&amp;d4=&amp;type=2&amp;ctype=0</a> </p>
<p>The numbers that we supplied to Gab were normalised using this approach.</p>
<p>Generally speaking we don&#8217;t favour one site over the other &#8211; the only exception is blogspot.com (and couple more blog locations) that we crawl more deeply than most domains.</p>
<p>Alex</p>
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		<title>By: SEO ROI &#187; Is PPC Necessary? Why? If So, When Do I Need To Do PPC?</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15240</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO ROI &#187; Is PPC Necessary? Why? If So, When Do I Need To Do PPC?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] backlink research (see also backlink research part 2) shows that in most commercial markets (not just the most competitive ones), you need to build [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Goldenberg</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15222</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Goldenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 04:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Simon,

Good points. That said, Majestic have normalized the data relative to their crawl rate, so your point isn&#039;t a concern. Looking at sites I&#039;ve worked on, it&#039;s fairly accurate in the general trend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Simon,</p>
<p>Good points. That said, Majestic have normalized the data relative to their crawl rate, so your point isn&#8217;t a concern. Looking at sites I&#8217;ve worked on, it&#8217;s fairly accurate in the general trend.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Goldenberg</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15221</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Goldenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 04:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Majestic&#039;s data is normalized relative to their growth in coverage. Good question!

As to crawl policy, that&#039;s possible, but I&#039;m not intimately familiar. Try emailing them - Alex and co. are a great group who&#039;d be happy to answer questions, I&#039;m sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Majestic&#8217;s data is normalized relative to their growth in coverage. Good question!</p>
<p>As to crawl policy, that&#8217;s possible, but I&#8217;m not intimately familiar. Try emailing them &#8211; Alex and co. are a great group who&#8217;d be happy to answer questions, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Goldenberg</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15220</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Goldenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 04:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless you mean a position 6 penalty, I don&#039;t really see that being the case. I&#039;m not looking at the data now, but I recall them being amongst those ranking for Jewelry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless you mean a position 6 penalty, I don&#8217;t really see that being the case. I&#8217;m not looking at the data now, but I recall them being amongst those ranking for Jewelry.</p>
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		<title>By: SearchCap: The Day In Search, August 10, 2009</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15219</link>
		<dc:creator>SearchCap: The Day In Search, August 10, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Backlink Research Shows How To Compete Elite (Part 2), seoroi.com [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andre</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15218</link>
		<dc:creator>Andre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon,

If you go to MajesticSEO&#039;s site you will see this below all graphs:

&quot;Chart note: default monthly view shows data points for any given month. Since our crawl rates increased considerably since 2006 it is adviseable to either use normalized view and/or compare domains with each other in order to get more comparable data. &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon,</p>
<p>If you go to MajesticSEO&#8217;s site you will see this below all graphs:</p>
<p>&#8220;Chart note: default monthly view shows data points for any given month. Since our crawl rates increased considerably since 2006 it is adviseable to either use normalized view and/or compare domains with each other in order to get more comparable data. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15215</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what strikes me as odd is that the food networks and epicurious grew proportionately in links over time and even encountered some of the same uptake periods.  

How is that possible?  

My thought is that perhaps this is because of the MajesticSEO crawler ... that in it&#039;s infancy, only crawled a very small portion of the web and therefore listed very few links for each site. It could be that MajesticSEO has gotten increasingly better at finding links over the past 3 yrs (increased resources, funds, etc), crawling a siginificantly higher amount of links than it did in 2006.  

This would suggest that a lot of the sites graphed above HAVEN&#039;T increased by XX million links in the past yr, but that the MajesticSEO crawler just FOUND those links (new or old) in the past year. In reality, these sites listed in the data could look more flat than a consistent linear-like growth in links since 2006.    

I&#039;d be interested to find out from MajesticSEO, how much their database has grown since 2006 and if it is proportionate to the growths in links reported in your graphs above.  

Perhaps we need to wait for the MajesticSEO tool to fully mature before we can accurately compare historical link information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what strikes me as odd is that the food networks and epicurious grew proportionately in links over time and even encountered some of the same uptake periods.  </p>
<p>How is that possible?  </p>
<p>My thought is that perhaps this is because of the MajesticSEO crawler &#8230; that in it&#8217;s infancy, only crawled a very small portion of the web and therefore listed very few links for each site. It could be that MajesticSEO has gotten increasingly better at finding links over the past 3 yrs (increased resources, funds, etc), crawling a siginificantly higher amount of links than it did in 2006.  </p>
<p>This would suggest that a lot of the sites graphed above HAVEN&#8217;T increased by XX million links in the past yr, but that the MajesticSEO crawler just FOUND those links (new or old) in the past year. In reality, these sites listed in the data could look more flat than a consistent linear-like growth in links since 2006.    </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested to find out from MajesticSEO, how much their database has grown since 2006 and if it is proportionate to the growths in links reported in your graphs above.  </p>
<p>Perhaps we need to wait for the MajesticSEO tool to fully mature before we can accurately compare historical link information.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris McGiffen</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15214</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris McGiffen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting stuff Gab.

One possible other influence though I wonder if you considered... Majestic SEO&#039;s coverage of the web. All the sites show growth in link numbers, but is this due to Majestic SEO increasing their coverage of the web or the individual sites?

Even comparing like for like, if their crawl policy favoured particular sites could this result in some skewing in these graphs where one site appears to grow above another?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting stuff Gab.</p>
<p>One possible other influence though I wonder if you considered&#8230; Majestic SEO&#8217;s coverage of the web. All the sites show growth in link numbers, but is this due to Majestic SEO increasing their coverage of the web or the individual sites?</p>
<p>Even comparing like for like, if their crawl policy favoured particular sites could this result in some skewing in these graphs where one site appears to grow above another?</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15213</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As per the Jewelry query, Blue Nile seems to have a partial penalty that&#039;s why they aren&#039;t ranking for &quot;Jewelry&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As per the Jewelry query, Blue Nile seems to have a partial penalty that&#8217;s why they aren&#8217;t ranking for &#8220;Jewelry&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Demers</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15206</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Demers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again really good stuff. The broad diversity of terms approach is definitely an interesting way to attack affiliate decisions, and even if you&#039;re start a business in a specific niche and trying to identify a query space inefficiency I think this type of analysis is really useful. 

Great stuff!

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again really good stuff. The broad diversity of terms approach is definitely an interesting way to attack affiliate decisions, and even if you&#8217;re start a business in a specific niche and trying to identify a query space inefficiency I think this type of analysis is really useful. </p>
<p>Great stuff!</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: What 70+ Hours Of Backlink Checking And Research Shows&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://seoroi.com/link-building/backlinks-compete-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-15195</link>
		<dc:creator>What 70+ Hours Of Backlink Checking And Research Shows&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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